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		<title>By: Neita</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-2346</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Jeff.   Patrick, being loved by God for who I am and not having to live up to what anyone else expects of me is a big part of the freedom I have found in Christ.   Following him is like learning to walk.  Every time I try I eventually fall, but he is there to pick me up and encourage me to try again.  He never condemns me for my effort.   He is grieved when I get discouraged and want to give up, but he has promised never to forsake me.   He is stronger than I am, but he never tries to overpower me with his strength;  instead, he woos me with his love.   He rewards me when I seek him.   Thank you for responding to my little note.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jeff.   Patrick, being loved by God for who I am and not having to live up to what anyone else expects of me is a big part of the freedom I have found in Christ.   Following him is like learning to walk.  Every time I try I eventually fall, but he is there to pick me up and encourage me to try again.  He never condemns me for my effort.   He is grieved when I get discouraged and want to give up, but he has promised never to forsake me.   He is stronger than I am, but he never tries to overpower me with his strength;  instead, he woos me with his love.   He rewards me when I seek him.   Thank you for responding to my little note.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffberryman</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-2345</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 04:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Patrick, 

Thanks for the conversation starter.  I really enjoyed Pink&#039;s book, but I saw not only as a resource for self-motivation, but also helping leaders understand that lots of things companies (and other organizations, including churches) do to motivate people aren&#039;t really helpful.  The really helpful piece for me was the idea that extrinsic motivators don&#039;t do much good when people are working on complex, creative problems.  It was big for me because I&#039;ve spent a fair amount of time in different arenas trying to solve those kinds of creative problems without the right sorts of motivation.  My bad, and dumb to boot.  (Most of that revolved around my artistic work as a writer.) 

And I totally get where you&#039;re coming from with the book not being about looking for &quot;hand of God&quot; types of extrinsic motivators.  Point taken.   My sense of interacting with God (and this is just me) is that it&#039;s mostly intuitive and faith-based (duh) working in concert with stuff that&#039;s actually going on, so that&#039;s it a bit more like watching what&#039;s going on and responding as best you can, somehow having faith that there&#039;s more in play than just my agency and freedom.   But from my point of view, the agency and freedom demands action and responsibility, and there&#039;s where the intrinsic motivators have to come into play.  Have to.  

As far as Christ goes, I think what my friend was getting at is that there&#039;s great freedom in the receipt of love.   I&#039;m with you...most people of faith (and I are one) that move in really beautiful ways through the world aren&#039;t motivated by what God might &quot;do to them.&quot;  It&#039;s in response to a love they (by faith) have received.  And if you&#039;ve ever been in love, you know that being loved can be a pretty big motivator.  Maybe that&#039;s how it plays to the conversation?  

Anyway, again, thanks for stopping by and joining in...

Peace, 

Jeff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Patrick, </p>
<p>Thanks for the conversation starter.  I really enjoyed Pink&#8217;s book, but I saw not only as a resource for self-motivation, but also helping leaders understand that lots of things companies (and other organizations, including churches) do to motivate people aren&#8217;t really helpful.  The really helpful piece for me was the idea that extrinsic motivators don&#8217;t do much good when people are working on complex, creative problems.  It was big for me because I&#8217;ve spent a fair amount of time in different arenas trying to solve those kinds of creative problems without the right sorts of motivation.  My bad, and dumb to boot.  (Most of that revolved around my artistic work as a writer.) </p>
<p>And I totally get where you&#8217;re coming from with the book not being about looking for &#8220;hand of God&#8221; types of extrinsic motivators.  Point taken.   My sense of interacting with God (and this is just me) is that it&#8217;s mostly intuitive and faith-based (duh) working in concert with stuff that&#8217;s actually going on, so that&#8217;s it a bit more like watching what&#8217;s going on and responding as best you can, somehow having faith that there&#8217;s more in play than just my agency and freedom.   But from my point of view, the agency and freedom demands action and responsibility, and there&#8217;s where the intrinsic motivators have to come into play.  Have to.  </p>
<p>As far as Christ goes, I think what my friend was getting at is that there&#8217;s great freedom in the receipt of love.   I&#8217;m with you&#8230;most people of faith (and I are one) that move in really beautiful ways through the world aren&#8217;t motivated by what God might &#8220;do to them.&#8221;  It&#8217;s in response to a love they (by faith) have received.  And if you&#8217;ve ever been in love, you know that being loved can be a pretty big motivator.  Maybe that&#8217;s how it plays to the conversation?  </p>
<p>Anyway, again, thanks for stopping by and joining in&#8230;</p>
<p>Peace, </p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Collins</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-2344</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You just quoted something pretty dogmatic to me: believe me and you will be free. Well, what kind of choice does that leave me? What if what you say doesn&#039;t motivate me? But, hey, maybe you&#039;re not a slave to that saying.

I&#039;m really not sure what that has to do about motivation theories anyway. I rarely meet well rounded people who are motivated by what god/jesus will or will not do to them. These reasons are usually used to excuse their actions that they choose not to claim ownership for. I take ownership for everything I do and everything that happens to me... it has set me free and motivates me daily. No guiding hand here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just quoted something pretty dogmatic to me: believe me and you will be free. Well, what kind of choice does that leave me? What if what you say doesn&#8217;t motivate me? But, hey, maybe you&#8217;re not a slave to that saying.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really not sure what that has to do about motivation theories anyway. I rarely meet well rounded people who are motivated by what god/jesus will or will not do to them. These reasons are usually used to excuse their actions that they choose not to claim ownership for. I take ownership for everything I do and everything that happens to me&#8230; it has set me free and motivates me daily. No guiding hand here.</p>
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		<title>By: Neita</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-2343</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus said, &quot;If you are my disciple, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.&quot;  There is a difference  between being a slave to religious dogma and being set free in Christ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus said, &#8220;If you are my disciple, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.&#8221;  There is a difference  between being a slave to religious dogma and being set free in Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Collins</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-2342</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surrender to god? Sheesh, give it a rest. This is a book about the ability to motivate one&#039;s self and achieve personal fulfilment, not to look for more external motivators like the guiding hand of some omnipresent being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surrender to god? Sheesh, give it a rest. This is a book about the ability to motivate one&#8217;s self and achieve personal fulfilment, not to look for more external motivators like the guiding hand of some omnipresent being.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew Curtiss</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-1625</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I now have a broad sense of what I need to do to recapture some of the old fire, all the while heading toward the future, hunting down what God might have next.&quot;

Jeff - Thank you for the insightful resource.  I share your journey as an artist of faith, and am diligently seeking God&#039;s face, looking to Him for my next &quot;assignment&quot;.  As I &quot;wait&quot;, I work; studying, reading, praying, writing, and making meaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I now have a broad sense of what I need to do to recapture some of the old fire, all the while heading toward the future, hunting down what God might have next.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeff &#8211; Thank you for the insightful resource.  I share your journey as an artist of faith, and am diligently seeking God&#8217;s face, looking to Him for my next &#8220;assignment&#8221;.  As I &#8220;wait&#8221;, I work; studying, reading, praying, writing, and making meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Neita Dudman</title>
		<link>http://jeffberryman.com/2010/08/10/reflections-on-daniel-pinks-drive/#comment-1613</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff, I feel totally inadequate to comment on anything that pertains to creativity in the arts, so this may sound presumptuous.  I was struck by the term &quot;autonomy&quot; in Pink&#039;s list of conditions.  Paradoxically, I believe true autonomy can be reached only when we are fully surrendered to God.  Even Deepak Chopra, in his book, The Third Jesus, recognized that Jesus is unique in this respect.  What Chopra did not seem to realize is that Jesus was totally obedient to God through the Holy Spirit.  He was not a &quot;self-made&quot; man.  With all his intellect and all his talent, do you suppose we would ever have heard of Paul, the apostle, if he had not surrendered everything to God?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I feel totally inadequate to comment on anything that pertains to creativity in the arts, so this may sound presumptuous.  I was struck by the term &#8220;autonomy&#8221; in Pink&#8217;s list of conditions.  Paradoxically, I believe true autonomy can be reached only when we are fully surrendered to God.  Even Deepak Chopra, in his book, The Third Jesus, recognized that Jesus is unique in this respect.  What Chopra did not seem to realize is that Jesus was totally obedient to God through the Holy Spirit.  He was not a &#8220;self-made&#8221; man.  With all his intellect and all his talent, do you suppose we would ever have heard of Paul, the apostle, if he had not surrendered everything to God?</p>
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